The Art of Listening

This is a chat I had with a guy trying to promote Kirtan Yoga events he runs. We had never talked before.

Enjoy.

Dina
hi Anke

14:09Anke
hi there
14:10Dina
i am wondering when you will be able to visit us
kirtanyoga
in west hampstead

14:10Anke
erm
maybe
14:10Dina
we would really appreciate your association

14:11Anke
do you know me?
14:11Dina
we have had 3 sessions so far
our next one is oct 10th
saturday
with special guests
jayadev and SacredVibes

14:11Anke
again, do you know me?
14:12Dina
not really
most people i contact, i do not know
however, i like getting to know many people

14:12Anke
ok… that’s ok then
14:12Dina
i like to invite like minded people to our events
people who have an interest in Yoga
kirtan, tec
etc
i hope that’s ok with you

14:13Anke
so how are your events different from just going to the temple?
14:14Dina
we do not promote philosophy
we don’t have dieties
we simply chant and take veggie snacks
the people who visit are yoga teachers
yoga practioners
young professionals
westerners
etc
we cater for a particular type of audience

14:15Anke
so what mantras are you chanting?
14:16Dina
we primarily chant Hare Krishna,
jai ram
Radha mantras

14:16Anke
so you don’t chant Shiva mantras?
14:17Dina
not really, we stick to Vaishnava mantras
although, Jai uttal may visit us in May
he will sing Shiva mantras
our singers are from the Hare Krishna Tradition

14:18Anke
so you do teach philosophy
14:18Dina
I conduct workshops and retreats

14:18Anke
by inviting teachers from a certain tradition you are teaching that you think this tradition is better than the others
14:18Dina
not really

14:18Anke
erm yes really
14:18Dina
we are saying please chant and allow these mantras to complement your yoga practices
again, we do not promote philosophy
if we did, it will cause disharmony
better we allow people to chant
chanting creates the real unity
as one spirit

14:20Anke
yes but you do promote the Krishna tradition over Saivite tradition
hence you are promoting philosophy
14:20Dina
i promote the path i lead, the path that i have chosen
however
i do
not
object to anyone else
path
or religion
or beliefs

14:21Anke
so if somebody stands up in your class and talks about tantra
14:21Dina
i am simply presenting kirtan from our tradition
the philosophy is not presented
however, if people want to learn more
they are entitled too
however, i would not say that don’t follow shaivates
or durga
or christanity
why
because
when you follow
Krishna
you understand where everyone
is
in their
practices
you
become more
respectful
to others
even krishna
says
don’t disturb
someone on their path
let them be
it is their path
i hope that brings some sense to my vision
for kirtanyoga
14:25Dina
we dont have classes
there is no forum for classes
it is simply kirtan and snacks
if someone wants to talk about tantra, why not
we can discuss it whilst having food
not whilst kirtan is going on
have you had a bad experience with us
in the past
is there something wrong
your quite negative
did someone offend you from our tradition
if so
i do apologise
it is a lack of maturity
which causes

14:26Anke
could you just give it a break and let me talk?
14:27Dina
problems
wow
i never heard that before

After this, Dina disconnected from the chat and removed me from his friends list.

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